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Sunday, February 28, 2010

A WIP, a FO, and something extra

Early this month, ZMrK and I went to a meetup for the New England LSGers at WEBS. WEBS itself was a bit of a whirlwind, which is a good thing, considering that I did put myself on a yarn diet this year. I went in, got what I wanted (I was allowed to break said yarn diet considering this trek was right before my birthday, or at least that is how I justified it), paid, and went off to lunch at the Northampton Brewery. It took a while to get there because I stupidly didn't do any sort of mapping to the Brewery, and the folks we followed (who had used MapQuest) weren't familiar with the area, so we were a bit late getting there. It turns out that we knew exactly where it was - duh - if only we had been told that it's near the parking garage! Once there, it was the typical LSG fun:



(You should have seen this by the time we were ALL done with it!)


I'm wearing my Sinful Dickinson Pullover (more on THAT later!)

I'm telling you about this trip to set up that fact that I got the yarn and pattern for the Aurora Shawl Collar Cardigan there (designed by WEBS' own Kristen Hipsky). Something about this pattern called out to me -- it may have to do with it being the middle of winter, and the pattern being for a warm, soft, sweater done with a warm, soft yarn.

Anyway, the damnedest thing has happened. Every time I take a progress shot of it, I'm too lazy to do a blog post. So I'll give both progress shots here:


I took this photo on February 17, in the morning. I had called in sick that day, with an awful head cold (my nose was so stuffed up that taking a drink was a struggle. I've since recovered from it, but passed it along to ZMrK, who has been sick all week and is now recovering, although still coughing).

I was completely finished with the body by the end of that day (knitting while watching zombie movies = WIN), and had a good start on the sleeve by the weekend:


Now, I am completely done with the left sleeve, and have about 25 rounds on the right sleeve done, but I'm too lazy right now to take a photo and upload it.

You may have noticed that it is in the same color as the pattern image, and the sample knit in WEBS. Some may call me unoriginal for that (I have, believe it or not, seen threads on Ravelry where people have deemed those that use the suggested yarn in the color the designer knit in "unoriginal". Seriously. But, any of us who have spent time on Ravelry know that there are some dipshits on there who feel the need to judge what others are doing. Oh, more on that later.). I originally went there to get the yarn in the "gold heather" colorway of Northampton Bulky, but I found the color to be more of a golden tan than the mustardy gold that I prefer. Since the light green heather is a perfect color on me, I decided to go with that (although I have to say, the ocean heather is also gorgeous in person!).

So that's where I stand with that. The pattern is easy -- super, super easy -- but at this point it's not transportable so I only work on it at home. I also need to keep it hidden in the back room, because a small black cat who shall remain nameless really likes that yarn and likes the DPNs even more -- so much that one day he chewed on one and pulled it off the stitches (which I was luckily able to get back onto the needles without trauma).

I did a bit of sewing last weekend. I have some low-nap zebra upholstery type fabric that I got at a yard sale a few years back, as well as some purse handles that I had purchased for an ill-fated project. Put them together and I've got this:


TA DA!! It hasn't left the house yet, of course, because I usually carry one of those big ol' purses that I seem to keep my life in. I plan to use it some night I'm out for fun. I didn't line it -- I fully intended to, but then the fabric I was using for lining was being a $$^&*@$# (seriously, a word that I won't even say!), so I decided not to line it. The zebra fabric doesn't shred at all, so I'm safe with it.

Okay, now I'm at the "something extra" part. I was the center of a bit of controversy on Ravelry this week. Yes, me. Now, I know that I blogged well over a year ago when I finished my Dickinson Pullover. There was no controversy there. Well, at the beginning of this year, ZMrK and I had a fun photoshoot involving me wearing said pullover with nothing else. I was too chicken to post the photos to Flickr at the time, but uploaded them straight to Ravelry just so I can have a cheeky little thread on Rubberneckers not Rubbernecking about them. They're cute photos, and were within the Ravelry Terms of Service, and the only one that may have been a little questionable was put down at the bottom (ahem!) of my project page. I forgot about them, and didn't see a thing wrong about it.

Earlier this week, there was a thread in LSG asking which if your projects were favorited the most. I posted that project, as well as my Weird hat, both of which had been favorited 13 times. I went on with my day, la la la. That night, I go to see what's what on Ravelry, and I have a comment on that project. It reads "You are gross!". I thank the person for commenting, and point it out to a couple of people I'm friends with, thinking it's funny. I get a few positive comments from my friends to negate the person who thinks I'm gross. I later get another comment (which has since been deleted by the author) that reads "Congratulation. [sic] You got the attention you wanted." I'm like, Um, okay. . . maybe the earlier commenter clutched her pearls and sent it to her friend, much like I sent the earlier comment to my friends.

Then, a couple of people give me the "heads up" that my pullover has become a topic of discussion in another group, where the photos are called "obscene" "very inappropriate" and of "private parts". For reals? By the time I saw the thread, other people had found it and had come to my defense. I was willing to just let it roll off my back until I saw a post that read, "Actually the cellulose on those thighs is what I didn’t want to look at". OH NO SHE DI'NT! Putting aside the hilarity of the thought of me growing plant fibers on my thighs (does that make then spinnable?), I had to go and defend myself. Here's my response to the thread (Rav Users names have been redacted so as to not cause further drama):

Hello! Since I’m the person being talked about here, I figured I would chime in.

As far as I can tell, my photos do not violate the Ravelry Terms of Use any more than the projects of thongs and pasties that [redacted] linked to do. Just to cover my own butt (heh, heh), I did use the drop-down menu when uploading said photos that tags them as “Mature Content”. I’m not sure how the Mature Content filter works, but I would suggest that people do utilize that feature.

That being said, I think that calling the photos “obscene” is a little over the line. I personally do not find the human body in its natural state obscene at all, and further, I’m not naked in the photos. A Victoria’s Secret ad shown on television during prime time shows more.

As far as the “cellulose” (sic) on my thighs goes that [redacted] so kindly pointed out, well, I do what I can with diet and exercise, but the reality is that all women get it at some point. I’d rather that than have to live with a mean-spirited soul festering inside me that has nothing better to do than snark at someone else’s physical shape.

The moderator of that thread chose to lock and archive the thread, since there were some pretty inappropriate things said there. I'm really glad that I was able to defend myself before she did, though. I was fucking shaking like a leaf as I wrote it! I'm not terribly good at confrontation, even when it's not in person, but I was so glad to have friends to back me up on this. Very glad.

What I find VERY curious is that the thread, as well as the comments, started within an hour of me posting a link to the project in an LSG thread (all by people who are not members of LSG). There is talk that people read LSG just looking for things to be offended by (LSG means "Lazy, Stupid, and Godless", and the group was started after a thread called "Is swearing allowed on Ravelry?" went kablooey, so that those of us with potty-mouths can hang out together and not offend others). I do believe that the whole controversy started because someone was looking for things to get offended by in LSG. It's too much of a coincidence otherwise.

I did have a conversation with TPTB of Ravelry (which I initiated) about whether my photos violated the Terms of Service or not. One of the photos did show a bit of my buttcheek, and was considered "borderline", but TPTB never deemed it inappropriate but recommended that I might want to take it down. I thought about it, because if it causes drama once it may cause drama again, but decided to reach a compromise that should please everybody except for those who are offended by a bit of cellulite (and those people can bite me):


For those who aren't on Ravelry, who may want to see the rest of the photos, here they are in all their obscene inappropriateness:






So. . . what's the verdict? Am I a filthy slattern? Should I be ashamed and hide my cottage cheese? I "get" that the one that showed my buttcheek was a little more risque than the others, but I don't think that's the only one that people objected to! From what people were saying, you'd think I was flashing some beaver or nipple in the pics.

Good things came out of it: I got a good story to tell, I discovered that I have many people on Ravelry willing to come to my defense, and I made a few new friends, as some of those people who defended me were folks I hadn't had contact with before. It also gave me some good ideas for Flash Your Stash day (Muahahaahahaha!) that may offend a few pearl-clutchers yet not violate any rules.

So, let me know -- AM I a filthy slattern or just a girl who is not ashamed of her body? Don't make me write this big ol' post for nothing (I know I haven't been the best blogger lately, so I want to get the lurkers to come out and comment).

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Blogger Stacey said...

I think the photos were great and you are not a filthy slattern. I wish I could be as comfortable with my body as you are. :) I was so pissed when I saw that thread in the first place, then when I found out it was about you, I was livid.

The thread was inappropriate, not you.

(Ha, my word verification for this comment is Zatim.)

3:09 PM  
Blogger Trillian42 said...

Oh, for crap's sakes... someone seriously got offended by that? You look adorable!

Some people really clearly don't have enough to do in their lives and need to search out drama. Sheesh.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Barb said...

What's wrong with being a filthy slattern? And if you weren't, whatever would the pearl-clutchers clutch?

(Wait, don't answer that second part. We don't need to answer that second part. They make it too easy.)

I think you're beautiful and that there's a lot of people who need to lighten the hell up. (*Y*)

4:00 PM  
Blogger turtlegirl76 said...

I still can't believe that those pictures caused such controversy. I think it was a fun photoshoot and you look great! Good for you for defending yourself so eloquently. I was too late to join in myself, but I was cheering you on!

4:48 PM  
Blogger ZantiMissKnit said...

I found the controversy ridiculous, myself. Thankfully, I've been a rubbernecker for quite a while and have seen examples of how to and how NOT to defend oneself, and had the sense to relax and think about it before responding.

Hey - what is the etiquette to responding to readers, anyway? Should I respond in the comments, like I am, or in my next blog post (which could be. . . um. . . the next time I blog?)?

5:58 PM  
Blogger Sue, aka seiding said...

You're a total hoar, that's been proven time and again. But seriously, that was the comment that really pissed me off, too. You can laugh at someone being a little prudish and go on with your day, but that insult was just so gratuitous and uncalled for (not to mention completely off-base) that I couldn't sit still for it either. I'm not sure the originator of the thread found you through LSG, but I'm pretty sure a couple of the pearl-clutchers had their suspicions confirmed after a peak at your groups list. Oh, and it's taking absolutely every ounce of willpower I have not to visit the Raveler who said called you gross and comment similarly on one of her projects. But that wouldn't be classy.

6:00 PM  
Blogger Mike H said...

I think that you look sexy as hell in those. And, as the photographer and the man who loves you, be it naked or clothed, I'm pretty sure my opinion is the one that matters!

These are sexy in a Playboy circa 1965 kind of way. Which is to say, they are sexy and timeless.

7:27 PM  
Blogger Fujiyamamama said...

Oh fer cryin' out loud! I wish my life were so dull that I had to create drama over what other people are doing!!!!

What a lovely sweater and a lovely person and I love that you are proud of your body!

7:34 PM  
Blogger kemtee said...

You look fabulous. I don't get people who spend their lives finding fault in others. I really don't.

Give 'em hell. Likely as not it's just jealousy, because it not only takes a beautiful body to do photos like yours, it also takes a large set of balls. Most people don't have 'em, and that's what holds them back in life.

8:37 PM  
Blogger Barb said...

I just had another thought...maybe you should do a photo shoot with your legs wrapped in banana leaves (or something, I don't know where one would find banana leaves, especially in the northeast, in February, but I have great faith in you). Then you could post pictures that really involved cellulose!

Best part: the pearl-clutchers wouldn't get it.

9:10 PM  
Blogger nogo54 said...

Thank you for spelling out the 'controversy'. I cannot believe how low and mean people will stoop. It's just so... I can't even come up with a word.

I think you've done nothing wrong and some people just really want to be offended.

The word verification for this comment is I kid you not, te suck spelled backward.

6:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For me, the good thing that came out of this is that now I am aware of your blog. And you! And I am inspired to take my own filthy slathern shots of my knitting since I am a knitter of similar proportions as well. I think those shots are beautiful and obviously your husband does too. THOSE sorts of shots are taken with love.

8:12 AM  
Blogger Mag said...

You're beautiful Andrea. And that sweater never looked better.
I'm only sorry I missed the uncensored butt crack. ;-)

1:06 PM  
Blogger Maven said...

I still say you should get ZMrK to do a similar, pin up style photo shoot wearing the sweater:)

2:36 PM  
Anonymous elspeth said...

I think the photos are great. Honestly, people really need to get a life. There are much easier places to get offended and complain on Ravelry even!

5:02 PM  
Blogger Mike H said...

For clarification, the "risque" shot was mostly haunch and about 3/4" of byoo-toxian beauty!

My sweater shots, for Maven, might well show more.

5:40 PM  
Blogger adrienne said...

Wow, that's crazy! And ridiculous.
The pictures are great.

9:32 PM  
Blogger dmcL said...

*If* you are a filthy slattern you are certainly my kind of filthy slattern. I adore those pictures (the post-processing to make them all soft and glowy is fabulous!). I'm so glad you wrote this post: I'm so infrequently on Rav these days I hadn't seen your project page with the pics and I thoroughly enjoyed it!

Kudos to you, Zanti!

11:51 AM  
Blogger Addiopolis said...

You're adorable and cute. And people should get over their filthy inhibitions and insecurities. Fortunately you don't have to let their problems be your problems. I loved those pictures the first time I saw them. It's fun to make a big sweater sexy. Folks should think outside of the box. They were as Mike said, classic. You are whatever you want to be. I'm so glad to have met you (NY Sheep and Wool several years ago, rav party) because I now get to witness you standing up for righteousness. The right to be beautiful, human, and fun.

12:16 PM  
Blogger Jo said...

Something ate my post...

You look fabulous.

10:09 PM  
Blogger Jo said...

Oh my God. Some people have way too much time on their hands - you look fabulous.

10:09 PM  
Blogger ZantiMissKnit said...

Nothing ate your post, Jo, I just have my comments moderated to weed out the spam and weirdos. Blogger seemed to have a couple of hiccups yesterday as well - Addiopolis' comment, although approved, didn't show up right away.

8:53 AM  
Blogger Stariel said...

I "saved" this in my bloglines so I'd remember to come back and comment, but then it took a while.

Anyway, good on you for having the guts to do that photo shoot. I think the pictures are really fun (even though I'm too much of a prude to do anything like it myself).

I'm still cracking up over your cellulose, though. ;)

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Ellen said...

Just came across this - I thought you look awesome and sexy for your man! I am inspired to don some alluring attire for my man ...

6:42 AM  

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